No problem. Well, this is all the information we got, I guess it’s up to everyone to decide for themselves if they trust it or not. Personally, I don’t see any reason why Philips/Screeneo would lie about this. I have experienced significant disruptions and delays in non-PPM related logistics recently, so I think the claims are plausible. But I can of course not be 100% sure.
Lets see indeed. Not sure what other excuses or delays they can add to this now …
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thanks, guess we will see soon
Good question! Yes there is, through the search option, or by using the Advanced search optionally.
You can also search in just one thread once you’re in that thread (option selected in the screenshot)
The other way Is with the Advanced search, where you can specify much more you want to use as filter:
For both options you can use more text as well. like if you want to search for when PhilipsNono used the word list you’d fill in @Philips_Support_N list
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George, first things first: I equate you using the term so-called independents with you calling me a liar.
I have never called myself an independent first of all, but have on the contrary often enough reiterated that I do not work for Screeneo or Philips in any way, shape or form. I moderate a forum they host, but am as much at their mercy as any one of the other backers including you.You talked a lot about fact-checking and such, and until you can factually prove I or anybody else have been legally contracted to work for these companies I’d suggest, kindly but firmly, that you do not use that term so-called independents again please. You’re entitled to your opinion like you said, but please don’t call me a liar when you can’t prove that I am.
Now that that’s out of the way: great posts and research you did, I appreciate the work you’re doing in trying to enlighten others and keeping the Screeneo team on their words and toes. You don’t just make claims but back it up with the information you’ve got from publicly available sources. 
From the prices you’ve collected and information you’ve gathered, it seems that Screeneo is being told differently by their forwarders or research than your experience has been, that much seems to be showing from your research. It could be that they’re using different companies, channels, aggregators, or even websites to find out their information, I do not know.
Could it however be though, that because you’re asking about shipments by KG, not specifying contents (high quantity of large batteries) or total weight of a whole batch, you’re getting a general sort of picture instead of what Philips or their forwarder is being told?
You see discrepancies between what you found and what they say as being lies, and therefore indicate they are not being honest. But what if they are honest but just aren’t being believed by you and so many other frustrated backers simply because they’re late according to their promised roadmap? Unless it’s a court case in which a jury is presented with all the hard evidence or facts, how can you be so sure of their dishonesty in this campaign?
Granted, I can’t be sure of their honesty either. But at the end of the day, all we have at this moment is their word. And their actions, such as units still being made and shipped, despite holidays, virus outbreaks, lockdowns, refused flights, increasing shipping costs, customs holdups, and (rightly) frustrated backers overloading their support systems. You said actions speak louder than words, how about those actions?
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NEWS
- QC passed for 1612 pieces
- Backerkit List 3: Here
- This list may change depending on our forwarder analysis (blocked countries…)
- Packaging: starts tomorrow
- Shipment may happen on Tuesday: we will let you know as soon as the flight is booked
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It’s done by software, and Yes, everyone will get it with a firmware update.
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Great, I’ll quote this in the Summary thread
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@Philips_Support_N If its contribution ID based: Are these 10k-15k contribution ID range or <10k?
If its country based: Can you please tell which countries are these being sent and when could we expect next batch to UAE?
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The list itself has Backerkit ID’s in it. But good question indeed on how it came to these Backerkit IDs, if by Contribution ID alone or by Country or some other order.
A lot of words and your words not mine. So are you an independent or not?
I am reiterating an assertion that you have made yourself - that you are not working for Screeneo or Philips. Hence an independent. And since there is no evidence that you are not working for them then you are a so-called independent.
You want to take it as being called a liar that’s up to you but these are all your own words and imaginations and I do not dignify it with any further response.
Screeneo set this up supposedly as an official channel to handle official support. Now I have pointed out information relevant to this thread as have you. Stick to that and facts.
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Don’t answer to those kind of attacks… Don’t waste your time. Thank you for your help on this forum, really.
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That’s is great @Philips_Support_N we are grateful for continuing upgrade the product through software enhancements!
Could you please give us a timeline for firmware 1.10 and for the new fan noise enhancement?
Thank you!
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Last update they released was over half of total orders had been completed. So I would guess this is the 7500k to 10,000.
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Guess what @Philips_Support_N, your list doesn’t contain my backerkit number despite you having said so yesterday.
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I will check. I’m not the one making the list. I just checked you were in the previous list, not in this one, and as you can see in your backerkit, the projector is on its way
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Thanks for the update! Do you have an outloook of the following week already with some estimates or I guess this would happen on Monday?
I’m getting more and more excited… Hope @IvoG will get his projector screen as well soon to make a quick review so I can make an order.
I will check. I’m not the one making the list. I just checked you were in the previous list, not in this one, and as you can see in your backerkit, the projector is on its way
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I agree that I am independent from Screeneo, and that lacking evidence of the contrary, I am so-called independent. That was not my point however.
My point is that I equate you calling me “so-called independent” (including the quotes) to you calling me a liar, and that’s what I do not want you to do anymore please
If I referred to you as the “honest” George Lee, or the “smart” debater George Lee, the very inclusion of the quotes casts doubt on and negates what is being said.
To be honest I find it a shame that this is all you had to take away or comment on, when I actually genuinely praised you for your research and contribution, I was very impressed when I read them earlier.
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We will have an outlook on next Thursday for the next batch
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