General info about shipment and manufacturing

Yannick, you are 14,077

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Thank you for sharing, i was trying to find that Backet number. Seems i m in the list excel list of shipments sent today :wink: fingers crossed.

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what i thought too, but another number in Backerkit showed 4254… maybe too many numbers overall…

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Hey @Philips_Support_N @IvoGrijt just notice my backer kit number was sorted on list 1 as u can see in the screenshots


That list was on march 24! I realized maybe my country was DHL-Blocked due to corona. But the current guidelines of Peru, state that importations are good to go and they will be more flexible from May 11. I read you re indeed skipping sorted numbers due to blockages. My question is does your current algorithm prioritize previous sorted numbers to next shipments? Because my number haven’t been sorted since list 1!! It isn’t the same logic as forgotten backers or defective units ones. Can I have an update on this? Also DHL | COVID-19 DHL states they are open to deliver with DHL Express in PERU on a previous list of ready to ship (to be produced and shipped units) they listed only 5 backers from my country, would be possible to ship those already?

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I have been following shipping and they are all starting with 155. Mine is 15978117 and i purchased since last year. Something doesnt make any sense here. Below is an example of next batch. this clearly shows these numbers are sequential so what year will i get mine if this is true ? I need to send an email to the CEO and board because this is terrible communication on Phillips part

15585328
15585330
15585331
15585333
15585334
15585335
15585336
15585337
15585338
15585339
15585340
15585341
15585342
15585343

I think your contribution ID is 19XXX. The project has not yet reached to those backers. In fact it has not even reached to 14xxx number yet. FYI

In average (some specifities per country may apply), people being delivered now backed in September. October backer will be get their product in a month (list 3) and so on. So if you backed end of 2019 (let say November) you should prudently target 2 month from now to get your product.

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No, cause the Backerkit ID has no correlation to backing order, as people who backed much later may have filled in their Backerkit surveys before others who backed earlier.
What matters is your Contribution ID, but yours is indeed quite high and therefore not up for fulfillment just yet (19227)

Hi IvoG, I was initially ok that there was no correlation for the hiden backerkit number. However, the fact that backerkit numbers in the same list are very close numbers (in sequences with only sometimes missing numbers, not the opposite) seems to mathematically indicate that somehow these numbers actually reflect indiegogo contribution or at least a geographical relation (a contrario to the non hidden backerkit number which means nothing appart from the date you fill backerkit). Just a thought ! Thanks,

IvoG,
That makes no sense whatsoever. I purchased last year and you are telling me you are still no where close to getting to me but you are advertising on indigogo for new people to purchase with a shipping date of next month ?

Please tell me when i should estimate to receive mine if i purchased in 2019. This is even worse than i thought. The second thing is you say it has nothing to do with backer Id but yet when ii look at what is being shipped they are sequential. This is very contradictory. One minute is when you purchased but the next minute is based on country and where you can find flight. Which one is it ? Honestly i dont care which it is i will just like to have a timeframe on when to expect my device

Thanks Quentin.

Another 10000 units before me, I may get it before the end of lockdown if it is extended to September.

I was going to use this when I am at work back in the UK so don’t need it at the moment anyway.

Ivog is only a moderator (not working for philips). You backed end of 2019 therefore you came quite late in the process (initial delivery date was October 2019 !). Luckily for you, production speed seems to increase a lot those days therefore you are catching up quite fast. As said before, 2 months for you should be a fair target to receive your product.

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Backerkit uses these numbers in their whole database, which contains other campaigns also. If other surveys get filled in pertaining to some of these other campaigns, they’ll just use the next available Backerkit sequential ID. The numbers aren’t reserved for the PicoPix Max campaign only, but are used for ALL Backerkit surveys in their systems.
The fact that some are sequential means that Backerkit had a slow day on other campaigns just when a bunch of PPM surveys were unlocked and mailed out to PPM backers.

The shipping is very late, that’s all. I backed in late August and received my projector a couple of days ago. But keep cool, it will come and it will be worth the wait!

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The fact that backer numbers in a same list (let say 1000 products out of 15,000) are pretty much all sequential means that they are related in my view. Otherwise they would only be sometimes (1 times out of 15 in average) sequential. Anyway it is not really important but I love statistics !

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Like MaximeM said, I am not advertising anything, Philips Projection is. And yes, their ad campaign information is outdated and needs to be updated, Period.

Read very well what I wrote:

That I can not give you, for I do not know and can’t predict this. Please use the information available in the summary to make your own estimates.

I agree with Petefisch. the projector would have been more useful with lockdown while kids are home. At this pace 2021 should not be ruled out which is disappointing for something we backed in 2019 and was suppose to start shipping in Oct of 2019. Extremely sad and disappointing for a company the size of phillips. I had the option of buy Xgimi which was also on Ndigogo at same time but i went for brand name and now look where i ended up. The Xgimi is already out on Amazon selling and and with positive reviews. this is truly sad. It will be good to hear from Phillips on projected dates on when people can receive their projectors.Sorry to say but someone really dropped the ball on this one.

They are related as in the all came in at around the same time. But in between there might be people who backed later (IGG) yet filled their survey in before earlier backers (Backerkit). Then of course they will be fulfilled later than those who had lower IGG numbers, meaning there’s a gap in the sequentiality of it all.

How can i use the information on summary to predict when you just said they are not sequential. Please share how you want us to predict when it sounds like you cannot even predict yourself. I have directors that work for me that will do a much better job than what i am watching a whole company do here. This is horrible

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You’re confusing different numbers. To properly understand all these ID’s and numbers, please read this explanation by a fellow forum user: Demystifing Numbers (Indiegogo, Backerkit etc.)?

The Backerkit ID numbers are used in the lists of projectors that are shipped. Those are the ones IvoG said are not sequential. This is however not a problem, since these numbers aren’t used to determine shipping order. The projectors are shipped roughly by Indiegogo contribution number (ie. backer number). I say roughly because there are other factors as well, like grouping of reasonably sized shipments to different regions.