Troubleshooting: Projector won't power on / no picture display / shuts down soon after starting

Hello @Philips_Support_T ,

I’m waiting for your reply to my mail from the 14.5 and the 16.5 after filling up your form for defect unit.
Best regards

In addition to the description and video I shared above. Blow are more details following the procedure of troubleshooting. @IvoGrijt, so far, I have not received any reply from the support to my last message. I am really disappointed with this project and defect device.

Check Power Adapter and USB cable

  • Are you pressing and holding the power button (on the projector or the remote) for a few seconds? YES
  • Are you using the supplied power adapter and USB-C cable? YES
  • Do you see red/blue flashing LED on plugging in the charger? This means the power adapter you’ve connected is not supported. Please use the supplied power adapter. NO

If you’re using the supplied adapter and cable, continue to the next section.

Check battery charge status

  • Make sure the projector is powered OFF. YES
  • Connect the power adapter to the projector. Make sure you plug it into the right side USB-C port (charging port), not the left side (video port)! YES
  • Does the LED turn red? If yes, let it charge for 3 hours until the LED turns blue. Then unplug it, and power it on. Does it work? LED red and after 3 hours blue. But can’t turn the light on. Fan starts working. The device can be detected via USB-C using a PC, but not light comes out!
  • If the LED doesn’t light up at all, check that:
    • the adapter is receiving power from the wall socket. DONE
    • do you have another USB-C device? Can the PicoPix adapter charge that device? If not, the adapter may be faulty. The adapter works fine.
  • If the LED lights up blue, it means the battery is fully charged. Continue to next section. YES

Check display problems

If your projector can turn on but doesn’t display any picture, check this as you power on the projector: NO, there is no light at all!

  • Do you see the white Philips logo startup screen?
    • if yes, but there is no picture afterwards, check that all cables (HDMI / USB-C) are unplugged.
    • does pressing the home button on the remote or touchpad causes the home screen to appear?
    • does pressing the autofocus button on the remote show the focusing screen?
  • Does the projector power off shortly after showing the home screen? It could be a thermal shutdown. check next section.

Thermal shutdown

If you don’t see the Philips startup screen, or the projector powers off soon after starting up, check the following:

  • Do you hear the fan spinning up when you power on the projector? YES
  • Do you have at least 30 cm free space on all sides of the projector to allow free movement of air? YES
  • What is the altitude of your city? (the atmosphere might be thin!) Germany, Elevation: 266m
  • What is the room temperature where you’re using the projector? 17 Celsius

After what, six months?

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The device arrived on the 2nd of May and the light never came out. I have been desperately contacting the support and posting here. But NO reply at all!!

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I’ve received my PPM today. Following the Quick start guide, I’ve charged the device completely and started it. I could not see any light output whatsoever from the device. Followed the troubleshooting steps.
I’ve essentially got the exact same behavior like @zangyp is showing in his video.

I’ve just contacted support@screeneo.com - hoping for a quick solution. Fingers crossed!

Here are my troubleshooting steps:

Check Power Adapter and USB cable

Are you pressing and holding the power button (on the projector or the remote) for a few seconds? YES

Are you using the supplied power adapter and USB-C cable? YES

Do you see red/blue flashing LED on plugging in the charger? This means the power adapter you’ve connected is not supported. Please use the supplied power adapter. NO

If you’re using the supplied adapter and cable, continue to the next section.

Check battery charge status

Make sure the projector is powered OFF. YES

Connect the power adapter to the projector. Make sure you plug it into the right side USB-C port (charging port), not the left side (video port)! YES

Does the LED turn red? If yes, let it charge for 3 hours until the LED turns blue. Then unplug it, and power it on. Does it work? LED red and after 3 hours blue. But can’t turn the light on. Fan starts working.

If the LED doesn’t light up at all, check that:

the adapter is receiving power from the wall socket. YES

do you have another USB-C device? Can the PicoPix adapter charge that device? If not, the adapter may be faulty. The adapter works fine.

If the LED lights up blue, it means the battery is fully charged. Continue to next section. YES

Check display problems

If your projector can turn on but doesn’t display any picture, check this as you power on the projector: NO, there is no light at all!

Do you see the white Philips logo startup screen?

if yes, but there is no picture afterwards, check that all cables (HDMI / USB-C) are unplugged.

does pressing the home button on the remote or touchpad causes the home screen to appear?

does pressing the autofocus button on the remote show the focusing screen?

Does the projector power off shortly after showing the home screen? It could be a thermal shutdown. check next section.

Thermal shutdown

If you don’t see the Philips startup screen, or the projector powers off soon after starting up, check the following:

Do you hear the fan spinning up when you power on the projector? YES

Do you have at least 30 cm free space on all sides of the projector to allow free movement of air? YES

What is the altitude of your city? (the atmosphere might be thin!) Switzerland, Elevation: 552m

What is the room temperature where you’re using the projector? 21 Celsius

This might be interesting for @Philips_Support_P and @Philips_Support_T

Well, believe it or not but I’ve found the issue with my device.
I had this urge to have a peek inside the unit. I’ve had the suspicion that some connector had rattled loose during shipping. I do have quiet a bit of experience in electronics aswell as in production automation.

I know I shouldn’t have - but I did open my PPM up - (very) probably voiding my warranty.
In the end it wasn’t a loose connector, but rather an overtightended one.

The one of the light engine to be specific. (Labeled DMD).

Here’s a sketch:


The example of the overtightened connector can be seen on the right hand side - the top one.
It’s obviously a little bit exaggerated. The yellow part symbolizes the pins of the connector.
Due to the large deflection of the connector, it seems like the pins did not mate the socket on the PCB properly - at least not in the middle of the connector.

I reseated the connector and made sure to not overtighten the screws and sure enough - it works now.
Perhaps the distance labeled “d” is too big or it’s just the torque for the connector screws being too high.
Maybe both. Either way - I’m not sure how this could’ve slipped trough QC.

I tought I’d be honest an post my findings here. I’m sure they couldn’t tell that I’ve taken my unit appart if I had to send it back for warranty at some point :wink:

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Awesome post, did you get any feedback from @Philips_Support_P on the above? I’m wondering if more devices are suffering from the same issue (perhaps some of the factory workers have been using too much torque on the screws?)

Nope, not yet.
They responded to my ticket with a PPM Return form, which I thankfully don’t need anymore.
That’s a response within two days - which I find very fast. I have to compliment that - it’s not easy considering the circumstances. I responded with a link to the above post.

I’m guessing so, something of that sort. I do suspect that some of the users PPM’s in this thread are having the exact same issue.

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Hi @WashirePie thanks for posting your findings. We’ve known the issue with this connector for a while now, which is why the warranty replacement is approved instantly for anyone who experiences this out of the box.

As for your warranty, if you could please share with @Philips_Support_T (or me) your PicoPix Max serial number we will make sure that it doesn’t get voided. (In your case it made sense, but we prefer that users don’t open up their projectors to attempt a self-repair. We are working hard to send replacements fast in most cases.)

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You really are setting yourself up for criticism with a statement like that.
Mine delivered faulty on 31st January and I still don’t have a replacement. Current delivery estimate mid to late June.
Regardless of Covid, 4.5 months cannot be considered “fast”.

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Just a thought, now that production has ramped up and all backers’ devices have been produced: do you have plans to distribute “replacement stock” to regional centres to mitigate these problems with returns?

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@Philips_Support_T I have the same exact problem. I just received today the PPM. What should I do? @Philips_Support_P

Hello, could you tell us more about the problem you have with the product

@PhilipsAfterSales
I received the PPM toady.
I followed all the instructions.

  • fully charged battery, etc.

The fan is working but no light coming out of the PPM.

I followed all your instructions and still the same problem.

What do you recommend me to do?

Could you tell us if the Philips logo shows up or not

@Philips_Support_T
Philips logo does not show up

@Philips_Support_T what should I do?

Thanks for your feedback. Based on the test result, we need to replace your PicoPix-Max and just sent you the procedure by separate email.

I’ve sent you my Serial number - I just want to say to the public that I find this a very kind gesture from Philips.

Thanks @Philips_Support_P & @Philips_Support_T for your hard work

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Hi I posted this in picomax dead on arrival topic but realised this is the topic that I should go to.

I’ve received my PPM in May.

Following the Quick start guide, I’ve charged the device completely and started it. I could not see any light output and followed the troubleshooting steps.

I’ve essentially got the exact same behavior like @zangyp (watched his video as well) and @WashirePie.

Here are my troubleshooting steps:

Check Power Adapter and USB cable
Are you pressing and holding the power button (on the projector or the remote) for a few seconds? YES
Are you using the supplied power adapter and USB-C cable? YES
Do you see red/blue flashing LED on plugging in the charger? This means the power adapter you’ve connected is not supported. Please use the supplied power adapter. NO
If you’re using the supplied adapter and cable, continue to the next section.
Check battery charge status
Make sure the projector is powered OFF. YES
Connect the power adapter to the projector. Make sure you plug it into the right side USB-C port (charging port), not the left side (video port)! YES
Does the LED turn red? If yes, let it charge for 3 hours until the LED turns blue. Then unplug it, and power it on. Does it work? LED red and after 3 hours blue. But can’t turn the light on. Fan starts working.
If the LED doesn’t light up at all, check that:
the adapter is receiving power from the wall socket. YES
do you have another USB-C device? Can the PicoPix adapter charge that device? If not, the adapter may be faulty. The adapter works fine.
If the LED lights up blue, it means the battery is fully charged. Continue to next section. YES
Check display problems
If your projector can turn on but doesn’t display any picture, check this as you power on the projector: NO, there is no light at all!
Do you see the white Philips logo startup screen?
if yes, but there is no picture afterwards, check that all cables (HDMI / USB-C) are unplugged.
does pressing the home button on the remote or touchpad causes the home screen to appear?
does pressing the autofocus button on the remote show the focusing screen?
Does the projector power off shortly after showing the home screen? It could be a thermal shutdown. check next section.
Thermal shutdown
If you don’t see the Philips startup screen, or the projector powers off soon after starting up, check the following:
Do you hear the fan spinning up when you power on the projector? YES
Do you have at least 30 cm free space on all sides of the projector to allow free movement of air? YES
What is the altitude of your city? Hong Kong , Elevation: 69m
What is the room temperature where you’re using the projector? 22 Celsius

Please help, thank you!