Hey Quentin, thanks for sharing the values to optimise HDMI input! It’s exactly what I needed.
Just to check, have your tried changing the image settings hidden in the hidden menu as well?
Hidden menu → Device Preferences → Display → Advanced Settings
Please do share with us if you have found a more balanced image values — the default image is very contrast heavy.
This Hidden Menü is known but doesn’t solve the “crap” colour and wax skins
Same for green yellowish dominant colour
My feeling is nobody knows how to solve this…
There is no way to solve this for us users, but I’m sure there is on the production end. Someone dialed in this gamma curve and these colours, they can change them. The different looks don’t help with this. Likewise, the sharpening on internal playback was corrected immediately, while the same sharpening on external input is still there. If this has been corrected on the new model and not this one that’s truly sad. I haven’t used the PPX in months, with this gamma and sharpening it’s an unfinished product. Looks like all changes at the production end have been halted and resources migrated to new product. We’re gonna get some UX polish and that’s it I fear.
I bought a cheap anti-ambient light gray screen and so far it made the picture brighter and with a lot more contrast. Its viewing angle is very limited though. Only for selfish people like me LOL
I’m not good with assessing color accuracy and such but so far I’m very contented. Also, look 14 seems to be good to me though it might be too cold for others 
I’ve gotten the PPM in Dec 2019, and I have predominantly used the HDMI input from my Apple TV.
Image quality was good on HDMI.
If I remembered correctly, it became bad earlier this year after a software update was rolled out to fix image issues on the in-built Android interface.
It looks like the software update actually broke the image quality on HDMI. Perhaps @Philips_Support_P can comment on this?
I mean you can easily see the difference between the image quality on the in-built of Android interface vs HDMI input.
Hi Quentin, great to see some interest from someone that works with color grading professionally. I was wondering if you had a chance to dive into the advanced settings and find some parameters that work well to make the picture better?
I’m not Quentin, but just happened to pop in here and saw this. There’s nothing we can do on the machine, in any menu, setting, secret or beta, that addresses the fundamental issue. If your advanced settings are correct as per instructions here on the forum (which adjust brightness and contrast so they don’t clip) you’ll be left with the gamma and colour issues described here. There are no controls for these. I’ve been lobbying for them to be brought in line, or for us to be given a choice of presets in lieu of actual controls, because flexible controls won’t be added to an inexpensive machine like this. This was many months ago as you can read in this thread. Nothing from Screeneo. Not even the brutal sharpening on external input has been fixed.
The image will not look better unless Screeneo address this. The image portion of this machine is unfinished.
The only reason I keep coming back to this forum after having received my PPM is because I’m eager to see whether the image (flat picture) quality will be improved or not.
Despite Prashant mentioning nothing’s gonna change on the hardware level, I keep hoping one of thesedays Philips will announce something about how they improved or will improve the picture quality and no more flat picture.
If nothing is done about the flat picture quality, I’m thinking to eventually sell my PPM for something I can live with…
When will we have this c mon philips
Despite what has been said and done, I wish everyone, including the Philips team, a happy New Year!
It was an exponentially dificult year from for me due to Cov19. I want to extend a pat on the back to everyone, including myself, across the globe for surviving 2020!!
Happy New Year folks!! 
Happy New Year from me as well to the community
@Philips_Support_P Happy New Year.
Please could you advise what the plans are for the PPM with regard to colour/image quality? It has gone very quiet on this topic recently and for me at least is key to me either selling or keeping my PPM.
Also, you mentioned 2 other new pj’s would be coming soon. Are these in addition to the Max one? Any info on specs you can share?
Hi Guys and Happy New Year to All of You
So you really think they will fix These issues?
We are early adopters and our feedbacks help them to improve an unfinished product. That’s my feeling at least.
I don’t expect anyone from Philips to answer since they simply ignore our messages about this key topic.
Who could be happy with a TV with discussing and flat colours? Burned clear picture?
I think they focus on a new version and all so called updates will stop within the year. And then a second version will be launched, with all our remarks in terms of improvement etc…
New issue the keystone is going crazy on my model : upper right corner is deformed with HDMi. But I don’t care anymore. I have the feeling to fight against windmills and that nobody really listen to us and our support requests
Worse when we demand for the color app to be shared, the answer is that not well use it could damage the projector 
Somebody must be joking here 
Anyway, I use this toy when traveling or for some mario kart competition and that all.
I’ll buy a true projector to watch movies.
One last attempt : is somebody from Philips reasons this ? Could you wave your hand ?
Well, it’s as they say: no answer is also an answer. While I understand moving on from a product is an economical necessity, doing so for a product this unfinished in the image department is like stopping creating the cow before it gives milk. It’s a projector. Don’t need a better UI or a bespoke app store when the image portion is half-finished.
Hi everyone, we have already given our statement on this topic. But here some personal insight from me:
Hi @William thanks for the suggestion. There is variation between devices, which would cause one set of defaults to show quite different results on a different unit. The current default values are based on averages found during preproduction.
If your PicoPix Max’s colours don’t look good, it’s likely a unit outside the typical tolerances.
Regarding the chromaticity of the primaries (R/G/B) this is a function of the LED used inside the light engine. The gamma curves are burnt into the video chip, based on averages found during preproduction, and sadly not upgradeable via software.
These are not purely technical issues, but also related to schedule and budgeting constraints. We could have added a professional CMS inside and released this product 1 year later.
@Philips_Support_P appreciate your comments. You mention on a previous post that a ‘looks’ feature is being worked on. Is there a rough timeline for this being released?
Lastly. Have these colour issues been addressed with the ppm one? I see on specs that it has - Rec. 709 Mode whereas the ppm obviously doesn’t.
@Philips_Support_P I’d really like to know if the update with the system-wide overlay (screenshot shown by @IvoGrijt higher up in the thread, which appears to be very similar to the overlay interface on the PicoPix Max One) is still being worked on?
Any estimate on when this update might be released?
Thanks
Hi @Dean_Newton the looks feature is coming with the next update by the end of the month. In the meantime you can use the colour adjustment app from the beta lounge.
Hi @smartygus there is no system-wide overlay on PicoPix Max. I’m not familiar with the screenshot you’re referring to. However we are working on the smartphone app to change the settings while watching something.
Hello,
Best wishes for 2021.
It seemed to me that the ability to adjust colors was built into all devices of this type and I can’t figure out the cause and effect link
We can therefore legitimately conclude that it is dangerous for the device to modify the “red / green / blue LED power”, including via the application available for people registered in the list of beta testers. And so these testers take the risk of irreparably damaging their product with this application dedicated to them (the same application that passionhomecinema used in its test).
If it’s really dangerous, why did you publish it ?
Or it is legally impossible for you to publish an application of this kind if it presents a risk, even calculated, and that is why you are offering it to an informed public ?
I don’t know if my projector has colorimetric specifications outside the expected ranges but from the moment a calibration had been carried out by a professional, the objective for me was to get closer
I understand your explanation about the basic specs and that they are “burned” into the chip
Thank you
Where was this statement given? I’d like to read it. I’m not talking about colour, by the way, you’ve mentioned the selection of LEDs plenty of times. But that’s not the issue. If you’ll remember, I even stated that the colour was fine for what this is, the colour temperature was spot-on on my machine.
People will say “flat colour” because that’s what it looks like, but the real reason is gamma. Most people don’t measure this, they just call it the way they see it. It’s not about the chromaticity of the LEDs or the white point. Those are what they are.
I am not aware of any clear statement on gamma being unalterable. Or the sharpening on external input. Please, clear this up and we can be done with it if it’s so.